0000170: Moving speed while jumping

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(0001388) Bistoufly (updater) 2012-03-06 05:30	A little correction: The part about jumping to the left is correct. but, When jumping to the right side: It's faster to jump facing backwards than it is to jump facing forwards. So the change that is needed here is to make facing forward, the fastest way in both jumping directions (left AND right). According to my tests in the runmode server. The speed diference is about 5%. other usefull info: .It affect jumps ( and any advanced moves beginning with a jump ( cannon balls, surfing, ... ) .It doesn't affect walking.

(0001403) ginn (reporter) 2012-03-27 01:03	It does also affect acceleration and speed while gliding on Ice... which I noticed while making a map.

(0002028) Bistoufly (updater) 2013-12-03 07:33 edited on: 2013-12-03 07:37	From this week's devlog: "* Fixed movement speed was slightly lower when facing right 0000170" see: http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=43151.msg516656#msg516656 [^] This is not the fix that was needed. By removing the slight difference between facing forward and backward, You effectively render useless several movement tricks such as the: - Inverse Cannon Ball. see: InverseCannonBall.gif - Inverse Prone Cancel. see: InverseProneCancel.gif Could you please instead implement it for both jumping direction as it was suggested in the ticket and in my comment? Relevant quotes: - "I would also like that "feature" (if its intended or not), implement for both sides instead of removing it, because it gives Soldat a bit more realistic physics." -ExHunter - "So the change that is needed here is to make facing forward, the fastest way in both jumping directions (left AND right)." -Bistoufly

(0002042) skoskav (developer) 2013-12-04 01:06	Why are these two moves now useless? Did they only work when performing them in one direction? What happens when you try to do them in the other direction?

(0002048) Bistoufly (updater) 2013-12-04 08:29	"Did they only work when performing them in one direction?" Runners use inverse cb/pc when going to the left. Normal cb/pc is used when going to the right. "What happens when you try to do them in the other direction?" On a straight route, if you inverse cb/pc when going to the right, you will lose time. (Compared to using normal cb/pc.) "Why are these two moves now useless?" If the way you face has no impact on jumping, then there is no use in tweaking your cb/pc to face a certain way. It's a shame, because it's extremely fun and satisfactory to perform these. And yet the difference is tiny enough that it doesn't create any imbalance between the player that use this trick vs the ones that don't use it. => How would we like to see this work ideally: - when going left: same behavior as current version. (when jumping left on a straight route, facing forward(left)allows you to build slightly more momentum than facing backward (right)) - when going right: mirror the behavior of going left. (when jumping right on a straight route, facing forward(right)would allow you to build slightly more momentum than facing backward (left))

(0002130) skoskav (developer) 2014-02-03 23:33	Changed so you're moving the fastest when also facing that direction (and vice versa). Though technically speaking this doesn't directly have to do with movement speed. It's really the repelling force of the collision checking which was biased to one facing direction. I just made it also factor in the left/right movement now.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-03-04 22:16	ExHunter	New Issue
2012-03-04 22:16	ExHunter	File Added: lefttorightrighttoleftrun.jpg
2012-03-06 05:30	Bistoufly	Note Added: 0001388
2012-03-27 01:03	ginn	Note Added: 0001403
2013-11-26 03:36	skoskav	Status	new => resolved
2013-11-26 03:36	skoskav	Fixed in Version	=> 1.6.7
2013-11-26 03:36	skoskav	Resolution	open => fixed
2013-11-26 03:36	skoskav	Assigned To	=> skoskav
2013-12-03 07:33	Bistoufly	Note Added: 0002028
2013-12-03 07:33	Bistoufly	Status	resolved => feedback
2013-12-03 07:33	Bistoufly	Resolution	fixed => reopened
2013-12-03 07:36	Bistoufly	File Added: InverseCannonBall.gif
2013-12-03 07:36	Bistoufly	File Added: InverseProneCancel.gif
2013-12-03 07:37	Bistoufly	Note Edited: 0002028	View Revisions
2013-12-04 01:06	skoskav	Note Added: 0002042
2013-12-04 08:29	Bistoufly	Note Added: 0002048
2013-12-05 06:44	Bistoufly	Priority	high => urgent
2013-12-08 22:02	Bistoufly	Priority	urgent => immediate
2014-02-03 23:33	skoskav	Note Added: 0002130
2014-02-03 23:33	skoskav	Status	feedback => resolved
2014-02-03 23:33	skoskav	Resolution	reopened => fixed

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